Kodi Settings at Minix NEO T5: 4k option is greyed out

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Hi.

I have a new Minix NEO T5, and Display resolution at Kodi Settings is greyed out (fixed at 1080p).

When I play a 4k movie, colors are washed out

The display mode at the NEO T5 is set at 2160p@60Hz

I have checked this question at the Kodi forums, but they say that it happens when the box doesn't support 4k. I understand that the NEO T5 supports 4k. What am I doing wrong?

Thank you!
 
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Hi.

I have a new Minix NEO T5, and Display resolution at Kodi Settings is greyed out (fixed at 1080p).

When I play a 4k movie, colors are washed out

The display mode at the NEO T5 is set at 2160p@60Hz

I have checked this question at the Kodi forums, but they say that it happens when the box doesn't support 4k. I understand that the NEO T5 supports 4k. What am I doing wrong?

Thank you!
My Guess >> You are probably playing a HDR movie and if your TV does not support HDR then it wil look washed out.
 
My Guess >> You are probably playing a HDR movie and if your TV does not support HDR then it wil look washed out.

Yes, that could be the case. I've downloaded a 4k sample from demolandia.net and it looks OK

1080p is the Kodi GUI, the T5 will auto switch to 4k when detecting a 4k video.

P.S if you want the 4k GUI then give CoreELEC a go:
https://theminixforum.com/index.php?threads/tutorial-coreelec-on-the-t5.3692/post-30845

I will try CoreELEC

Thank you!
 
Hi.

I have a new Minix NEO T5, and Display resolution at Kodi Settings is greyed out (fixed at 1080p).

When I play a 4k movie, colors are washed out

The display mode at the NEO T5 is set at 2160p@60Hz

I have checked this question at the Kodi forums, but they say that it happens when the box doesn't support 4k. I understand that the NEO T5 supports 4k. What am I doing wrong?

Thank you!

What is your TV model ?
 
Can Minix T5 passthrough HDR10+ video ?

I am using kodi 19.1, hdr10 fine, TV OSD show HDR, but when playing HDR10+ TV OSD not displaying HDR and the video become very dark , and when stop play the video kodi interface still very dark, I need to play non HDR10+ to revert color to normal.

I tried play the video directly to TV USB, colors fine and OSD show HDR so my TV support HDR10+
 
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Can Minix T5 passthrough HDR10+ video ?

I am using kodi 19.1, hdr10 fine, TV OSD show HDR, but when playing HDR10+ TV OSD not displaying HDR and the video become very dark , and when stop play the video kodi interface still very dark, I need to play non HDR10+ to revert color to normal.

I tried play the video directly to TV USB, colors fine and OSD show HDR so my TV support HDR10+
Please provide a link to a sample of HDR10+ and I'll try on mine
 
Can Minix T5 passthrough HDR10+ video ?

I am using kodi 19.1, hdr10 fine, TV OSD show HDR, but when playing HDR10+ TV OSD not displaying HDR and the video become very dark , and when stop play the video kodi interface still very dark, I need to play non HDR10+ to revert color to normal.

I tried play the video directly to TV USB, colors fine and OSD show HDR so my TV support HDR10+

On a related note..... It's not uncommon for certain models of HDR 10+ capable 4K TV's to support HDR 10+ via it's own built in media player or the TV's native apps (such as Netflix or Prime Video), but they may not necessarily support HDR 10+ via HDMI.

Obviously, you'd need to research the issue specific to the make & model of your particular TV.

Additionally, if you're using an AVR, HDMI switches or any other device actively used for passthrough, they too must fully support all required standards for everything to function as expected.
 
Please provide a link to a sample of HDR10+ and I'll try on mine
this the video sample I cut from movie :
Code:
https://mega.nz/file/lsgmhJAK#cH6TfNvZrte0Vcb-zlknf7y2Gf1pO8AFmVhAkOXAGoQ

Play from Minix T5 using Kodi :


Play from TV USB :
 
@jipo

Thanks for providing the link.

Im afraid HDR didnt kick in for me when playing on the T5 with Kodi 19

It did however when using my U22 also using Kodi 19 ( Coreelec)

Both Minix's are connected via an AVR to the same HDMI input port on the TV.

Minix claim HDR10+ support for the T5 so Im suprsied it didnt work :(

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@jipo

Thanks for providing the link.

Im afraid HDR didnt kick in for me when playing on the T5 with Kodi 19

It did however when using my U22 also using Kodi 19 ( Coreelec)

Both Minix's are connected via an AVR to the same HDMI input port on the TV.

Minix claim HDR10+ support for the T5 so Im suprsied it didnt work :(

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So in U22, the HDR10+ works fine ?
Thanks for testing it.
 
I have an LG OLED and when using the U22 the HDR banner was displayed on the TV screen and changes to HDR view mode

But are you getting the actual "HDR 10+" banner & logo on your TV or just the typical HDR banner?

@jipo

Thanks for providing the link.

Im afraid HDR didnt kick in for me when playing on the T5 with Kodi 19

It did however when using my U22 also using Kodi 19 ( Coreelec)

Both Minix's are connected via an AVR to the same HDMI input port on the TV.

Minix claim HDR10+ support for the T5 so Im suprsied it didnt work :(

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Just an FYI & some additional consideration for anyone in similar circumstances in the future...

..It probably hasn't worked consistently over HDMI in your case because your AVR doesn't support HDR 10+ passthrough, (to date there's still very few AVR's that do in the grander scheme). Your AVR does obviously support standard HDR passthrough & it also supports Dolby Vision which is a similar concept to HDR 10+ but typically it's often the other way around with the playback devices themselves that may not yet have full support for DV too. It's still early days for both DV & HDR 10+, so we're essentially in that same "no man's land" that many consumers found themselves in when rushing to buy earlier generation 4K TV's a few years ago only to discover that their TV's (or AVR's if applicable) were immediately obsolete for any forwards compatibility for HDR, let alone beyond. (I've also had mixed results with HDR 10+ encoded files & the various different devices actually decoding the media through testing. (I.e the T5 or U22 with Android and/or CoreELEC.) Some HDR 10+ files I've tested simply default back down to standard HDR & otherwise display normally with my TV, some have constantly changing colouring issues that make the media unwatchable (presumably due to the nature of the dynamic metadata of HDR 10+ vs the static metadata of HDR 10 that my AVR isn't correctly passing through), or some files just won't playback or display anything at all. (On a side note, my TV definitely supports HDR 10+ via its own media player but over HDMI it's a bit of a grey area with the TV seemingly allowing it from certain HDMI devices but not others. So far there seems to be a pattern for premium devices allowing it over HDMI. I can't tell if apps like Netflix or Prime Video are successfully outputting in HDR vs HDR 10+ because the banners or info that used to be present have been removed in a recent firmware update so I can only be certain of the media being HDR & not specifically HDR 10+, make of that what you will.))

I have a feeling your TV will possibly have wider capabilities but your AVR is still obviously a limiting factor specifically when it comes to HDR 10+.

If you're also using notably older HDMI cables, they may also need due consideration for an update because of the significantly higher data rates involved that older cables may now struggle with. (@jipo , you may also want to check all of your cabling as well if you hadn't already ;).)

Otherwise, try playing the test file again or testing other HDR 10+ content via the TV's built in media player, (easily done from a USB stick or a NAS). Any change? (It'll be immediately apparent as the HDR 10+ banner/logo is quite different to the often plain standard HDR banner.)

I realise you're testing on behalf of someone else in this instance, but, if you want to know the particulars & capabilities of your specific hardware, then also try testing again with a direct connection from the device (T5/U22) to your LG TV as that "may" allow full fat HDR 10+ to function, (so to speak). The audio should still come back down the ARC channel as well anyway, so you won't be watching a silent video :). Off the top of my head I can't remember if your TV & AVR both support e-ARC, but I have a feeling they both do so you can still get the best of both worlds in that regard, even if it's just to quickly test what capabilities your hardware may have.

HDR 10+ also has a completely different banner to HDR so it's immediately apparent to the viewer if they're viewing content in HDR 10+ vs standard HDR 10. Again, a quick test will help identify if your TV/system is handling everything correctly. Our AVR's obviously remain closely related & the stated specs are essentially the same in that regard so I'd avoid testing with the AVR directly in the chain as outlined above. (E-ARC "should" be OK.)

(I know it's a pain getting in behind all the various hardware to start swapping cables around especially just for a test etc. You may even be able to get the information specific to what your TV can/will support from looking up the discussions within the make/model owner's threads on another forum & save getting your hands dirty in this instance ;).)
 
But are you getting the actual "HDR 10+" banner & logo on your TV or just the typical HDR banner?
The LG C9 I have doesnt feature HDR10+ specifically. AFAIK any HDRx content wil be displayed and played using LG's HDR >>> it looks fine and exactly the same when using LG's inbuilt media player from my NAS.

I dont have any other HDR10+ content to try on the T5.

I just found it strange that the same file played fine in HDR off the U22 but not the T5.

The only other difference is I use Corerelec on the U22 and standard Kodi on the T5.

Im pretty sure my HDMI cables are fine.
 
The LG C9 I have doesnt feature HDR10+ specifically. AFAIK any HDRx content wil be displayed and played using LG's HDR >>> it looks fine and exactly the same when using LG's inbuilt media player from my NAS.

I dont have any other HDR10+ content to try on the T5.

I just found it strange that the same file played fine in HDR off the U22 but not the T5.

The only other difference is I use Corerelec on the U22 and standard Kodi on the T5.

Im pretty sure my HDMI cables are fine.

Yes, your cables probably are just fine lol, that point was more for jipo's benefit than your own knowing you upgraded all of your HT hardware in the not too distant past :).

Aahh OK, yes, no specific support for actual HDR 10+ with LG. (Yet anyway, you never know). Standard HDR 10 & HLG are still natively supported though.

Obviously, as long as your AVR remains in the HDMI passthrough chain, anything that your media devices are decoding will still only passthrough at the maximum capability of the AVR itself, so your TV never actually receives the HDR 10+ data/signal anyway even if it could support it. Given that LG are essentially using their own decoding process to downscale HDR 10+ to HDR, there'd be zero point in testing a direct connection with the devices either or messing around in general testing HDR 10+ media.

As mentioned, I've had some quite mixed results too with both HDR 10+ & DV depending on various factors. (I've mainly tested HDR 10+ with my TV's native media player or the U22, with the obvious limitation that my TV's native player doesn't support anything other than DD/DD+, hence the need for the additional hardware ;).) My T5 has CoreELEC on the eMMC but I just haven't got around to running the exact same tests as the U22 with CoreELEC. One quick test you could do with your setup would be to simply swap the inputs around for your T5 & U22, & try again. (Swapping the cables from the back of the devices would probably be the quicker/easier.) Does that immediately reverse the issue with the T5 then successfully sending an HDR signal through to the TV & the U22 then won't? Or still the same as before regardless? (My assumption would be nothing would change at all, but unless actually tested, an unproven assumption it remains ;).)

Otherwise, it quite possibly isn't just an issue of the device itself as you've noted, but the OS or firmware is also a likely factor with the T5 & the U22 vs Android or CoreELEC too.
 
My T5 has CoreELEC on the eMMC
Can you run the video file through with that set up and see what you get ?

And of course my AVR doesnt support HDR10+ so I could only expect to see HDR running through the minix

I cant be a***d to go swapping cables around and get a hernia !
 
Yes, your cables probably are just fine lol, that point was more for jipo's benefit than your own knowing you upgraded all of your HT hardware in the not too distant past :).

Aahh OK, yes, no specific support for actual HDR 10+ with LG. (Yet anyway, you never know). Standard HDR 10 & HLG are still natively supported though.

Obviously, as long as your AVR remains in the HDMI passthrough chain, anything that your media devices are decoding will still only passthrough at the maximum capability of the AVR itself, so your TV never actually receives the HDR 10+ data/signal anyway even if it could support it. Given that LG are essentially using their own decoding process to downscale HDR 10+ to HDR, there'd be zero point in testing a direct connection with the devices either or messing around in general testing HDR 10+ media.

As mentioned, I've had some quite mixed results too with both HDR 10+ & DV depending on various factors. (I've mainly tested HDR 10+ with my TV's native media player or the U22, with the obvious limitation that my TV's native player doesn't support anything other than DD/DD+, hence the need for the additional hardware ;).) My T5 has CoreELEC on the eMMC but I just haven't got around to running the exact same tests as the U22 with CoreELEC. One quick test you could do with your setup would be to simply swap the inputs around for your T5 & U22, & try again. (Swapping the cables from the back of the devices would probably be the quicker/easier.) Does that immediately reverse the issue with the T5 then successfully sending an HDR signal through to the TV & the U22 then won't? Or still the same as before regardless? (My assumption would be nothing would change at all, but unless actually tested, an unproven assumption it remains ;).)

Otherwise, it quite possibly isn't just an issue of the device itself as you've noted, but the OS or firmware is also a likely factor with the T5 & the U22 vs Android or CoreELEC too.

I just search information about HDR10+ or Dolby Vision that use dynamic metadata , both need HDMI cable 2.1 that can passthrough dynamic metadata
source : https://www.cnet.com/tech/home-entertainment/what-is-hdmi-2-0b/

I'll try with HDMI cable 2.1
I don't know minix neo T5 hdmi cable is 2.0 or 2.1, but I don't have another HDMI 2.1 cable
 
I'll try with HDMI cable 2.1
I don't know minix neo T5 hdmi cable is 2.0 or 2.1, but I don't have another HDMI 2.1 cable
There is no such thing!

HDMI 2.0/2.1 is a standard. The cable just connects the devices with that standard!

The T5 supports HDMI 2.1

https://www.cnet.com/tech/home-entertainment/do-you-need-new-hdmi-cables-for-hdr/

https://theminixforum.com/index.php?threads/does-the-u22-come-with-a-hdmi-cable-2-1-or-2-0.2717/
https://theminixforum.com/index.php?threads/hdmi.2651/post-20205
 
this issue fix using kodi 21 omega.
in player setting we can set HDR dynamic metadata selection. disabled DV or HDR10+.
 
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