New Minix products presented at IFA Berlin 2019

ArcticWolf

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#82
Yes I know, but that is what I mean (highlighted sentences):
"The Minix Neo U9-H supports DTS and Dolby Digital with full official Dolby license"

Is the Dolby Certificate issued in two complete and incomplete types?!:unsure:
Are you trying to determine what will work with passthrough etc. Reza?
 
#83
which model are you refering to as you quoted this
On the U9 model and here:
"Rich Cinematic Surround Sound – Dolby Digital Audio
NEO U9-H brings the full-theater sound to your living room. Fully licensed Dolby Audio delivers unsurpassed, vibrant sound quality that brings your entertainment to life."
Link


does it matter....can you detail why you are concerned ?
Are you trying to determine what will work with passthrough etc. Reza?
This raises two questions for me:

1 - When it is said that the U9 has a Dolby Certificate, the question arises as to whether the Dolby in U1 is without a Certificate?
Is the Dolby certificate defective in the U1 model?

2 - If Dolby Audio needs a full certificate, then why hasn't this certificate been issued for DTS?
Is the DTS Audio certificate incomplete?
 

ArcticWolf

Trusted Helper
#85
On the U9 model and here:
"Rich Cinematic Surround Sound – Dolby Digital Audio
NEO U9-H brings the full-theater sound to your living room. Fully licensed Dolby Audio delivers unsurpassed, vibrant sound quality that brings your entertainment to life."
Link




This raises two questions for me:

1 - When it is said that the U9 has a Dolby Certificate, the question arises as to whether the Dolby in U1 is without a Certificate?
Is the Dolby certificate defective in the U1 model?

2 - If Dolby Audio needs a full certificate, then why hasn't this certificate been issued for DTS?
Is the DTS Audio certificate incomplete?
It's more an issue of licensing isn't it?

For example, for MINIX devices to be able to process DTS audio, MINIX would first need to pay the usual licensing fees to DTS etc.

Same applies for Dolby's advanced HD codecs I would imagine???

The U9-H can process DTS.

Is that what you meant?
 
#86
Thank you both of you for taking the time to respond to me


It's more an issue of licensing isn't it?
For example, for MINIX devices to be able to process DTS audio, MINIX would first need to pay the usual licensing fees to DTS etc.
Same applies for Dolby's advanced HD codecs I would imagine???
The U9-H can process DTS.
Is that what you meant?
My concern is because:
I suspect that the Dolby Company may issue two (or more) certificates
One certificate for elementary decoding and another certificate for advanced decoding
That second certificate is called the full certificate
And the difference is that the full certificate includes the full bitrate
Or the difference is that a full certification includes a full pass
Of course this is just an example and a guess
 
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Skynet

Administrator
#87
Thank you both of you for taking the time to respond to me



My concern is because:
I suspect that the Dolby Company may issue two (or more) certificates
One certificate for elementary decoding and another certificate for advanced decoding
That second certificate is called the full certificate
And the difference is that the full certificate includes the full bitrate
Or the difference is that a full certification includes a full pass
Of course this is just an example and a guess
Well, wait for Minix team answer ;)
 
#88
Thank you both of you for taking the time to respond to me



My concern is because:
I suspect that the Dolby Company may issue two (or more) certificates
One certificate for elementary decoding and another certificate for advanced decoding
That second certificate is called the full certificate
And the difference is that the full certificate includes the full bitrate
Or the difference is that a full certification includes a full pass
Of course this is just an example and a guess
You are worrying about a problem that does not even currently exist.
 
#91
I stll cant see what your issue is as you are failing to answer and describe what your problem is and for what device
Dear friend
We believe that the U1 model, as well as other models, have Dolby license. Right?
If so, what is the reason for mentioning the sentence in the U9 model: "Fully licensed Dolby Audio"
I want to know what the difference is between "license" and "Full license"
(I'm sure there is a difference)
 
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ArcticWolf

Trusted Helper
#92
Dear friend
We believe that the U1 model, as well as other models, have Dolby license. Right?
If so, what is the reason for mentioning the sentence in the U9 model: "Fully licensed Dolby Audio"
I want to know what the difference is between "license" and "Full license"
(I'm sure there is a difference)
I think you might now be getting hung up on a simple turn of phrase or terminology here Reza ;)!!??!?!!!?

As previously mentioned, (although before you asked about DTS with the U9-H, not Dolby lol)..... I think the terminology of the U9-H being "fully licensed" just means that MINIX (and the U9-H product itself) are "fully licensed" to bear the Dolby logo/trademark, etc. on the device itself, its packaging, & with any applicable software that may also be pre-installed on the device.

To use the Dolby name, logo/TM etc. in accordance with a certain device, the manufacturer has to first meet a very specific set of criteria laid out by Dolby & possibly pay due licensing fees. Once met, the manufacturer obtains their license from Dolby & they can officially state that their product (or products) are fully licensed. (Obviously this is only a generalisation, the process itself is undoubtedly much more stringent & complex than my brief example.)

Again, whilst I'm happy to be corrected & my memory frequently lets me down these days lol, I certainly can't recall anyone questioning any differences between licensing, partial licensing or full licensing from Dolby!!(Not just here, from countless sources online????? ;))

I hope that perhaps provides some additional light on the subject for you. Otherwise, like @pusb87 I'm going to bow out on this subject & wait for the official MINIX reps to provide you with the specificity that you're asking for & to ultimately correct anything else we're possibly misunderstanding here as well or we'll just be in an endless state of "what if?" Lol ;) :).
 
#93
I think the terminology of the U9-H being "fully licensed" just means that MINIX (and the U9-H product itself) are "fully licensed" to bear the Dolby logo/trademark, etc. on the device itself, its packaging, & with any applicable software that may also be pre-installed on the device.
Well done! Now some questions
1 - Why hasn't this sentence been mentioned for other devices? (Including U1) Didn't those devices have this license?!
2 - While Minix is licensed for DTS, why hasn't this sentence been mentioned for DTS?


To use the Dolby name, logo/TM etc. in accordance with a certain device, the manufacturer has to first meet a very specific set of criteria laid out by Dolby & possibly pay due licensing fees. Once met, the manufacturer obtains their license from Dolby & they can officially state that their product (or products) are fully licensed
I'll give you an example, I hope you understand what I mean better:
You know THX issues licenses for some devices. But THX licenses have several levels.
THX Select
THX Select 2
THX Ultra
and.....
The more powerful a device is in carrying out THX parameters, the more it will receive a different certificate.
So, if a device has THX certificate, it doesn't mean it has THX Ultra certificate.
Similarly, if a device has Dolby certificate, it does not mean that it has Dolby full certificate.
That's what I think
 

notrui2

Trusted Helper
#95
Well done! Now some questions
1 - Why hasn't this sentence been mentioned for other devices? (Including U1) Didn't those devices have this license?!
2 - While Minix is licensed for DTS, why hasn't this sentence been mentioned for DTS?



I'll give you an example, I hope you understand what I mean better:
You know THX issues licenses for some devices. But THX licenses have several levels.
THX Select
THX Select 2
THX Ultra
and.....
The more powerful a device is in carrying out THX parameters, the more it will receive a different certificate.
So, if a device has THX certificate, it doesn't mean it has THX Ultra certificate.
Similarly, if a device has Dolby certificate, it does not mean that it has Dolby full certificate.
That's what I think
Hi.
It is better to wait for minix confirmation.
 

JJ-KwiK

Trusted Helper
#98
That really depends in you and your preference. If you enjoy the leanback (remote-friendly) suite of apps, then AndroidTV may be best for you. If you enjoy a more open system then standard Android may be best. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. Do a quick Google search to look and decide for yourself, since I think there would be a split decision if there was a poll.
 
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Skynet

Administrator
How much internal storage will the Minix U22 have because am seeing 64GB and 32GB which one is correct????

Sent from my HTC U11 using Tapatalk
It seems to be : 32GB eMMC / 4GB DDR4

You're right, informations given by the website in first page seem wrong, i will correct them.
 
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