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Renato

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Hi to everyone,
I am experiencing a problem with maximum wifi speed.
Until today I have always used minix unit with ethernet cable linked to 1gigabit network with no issue.
I was forced to move minix in a different place far away from ethernet plug so I have turned on wifi.
The minix unit now is near a 5ghz repeater, very near, less than one meter.
The unit is able to connect but maximum speed is limited to 100mbit ( in download it reachs maximum 7-8 megabytes/s) even if
speed connection show 433 mbit with a very stable connection (full power green bar)
Other devices connected to the same repeater are able to download at 80/90 megabytes/s, if i connect minix back to ethernet cable again
it is able to reach 70/80 megabytes/s.
I can't figure out what's wrong, someone can help me?
thanks
Renato
 
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Hello.
Of course it is always better to use ethernet gigabit.
First do this:
-restart the two devices: minix and router

Check the wifi configurations in both router and minix.
 
Thanks for your reply.
I have already reconfigured everything twice. Tried even to connect minix directly to router wifi instead of repeater and nothing has changed.
 
Renato said:
Thanks for your reply.
I have already reconfigured everything twice. Tried even to connect minix directly to router wifi instead of repeater and nothing has changed.
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Check also security settings in your router.
Then try and disable wifi security settings in the router like WPA.
Change wireless network mode to mixed for example.
For testing disable firewall (in the router and in minix) and antivirus

Sometimes the easy way when we change many things in the router is to do this:
-router factory reset to ensure your router is working fine.
 
I give up.
definitively again another issue due to very poor quality of minix products.
I have tried everything, completely bypassed router and tried transfer on local lan through access point with same result.
Tried to remove completely authentication, moved minix on different lan, reinstalled wireless driver, tried different 5ghz channels.
before trash everything last try is to reinstall windows image available here.
 
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Renato said:
I give up.
definitively again another issue due to very poor quality of minix products.
I have tried everything, completely bypassed router and tried transfer on local lan through access point with same result.
Tried to remove completely authentication, moved minix on different lan, reinstalled wireless driver, tried different 5ghz channels.
before trash everything last try is to reinstall windows image available here.
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Hi Renato

Since 7.45 this morning that I am thinking about your message. If your network is capable to download 1 Gigabyte from the internet (wired or wireless in not the question) in about 10 seconds when your speed connection shows 433 mbit, then I should probably throw all my gizmos out the window and dedicated myself to fishing or something. If your Minix product is capable of that, even if you have to wire it, than calling it a "poor quality" product in a website full of product fans is walking on very thin ice.:sneaky::)

I really hope that your issue is not a mere units confusion somehow, or a situation caused by methodology. There is too much to consider when you decide to go through internet speed measuring and there is a lot to rely upon in third party. When I read these messages of disappointment I always remember the couple of days I spent thinking about my faulty U1, until I found out that all it would take to resolve my problem was to separate the SSID in the new internet router, in order for the 2.8 GHz band not to share the same SSID with the 5 GHz band. After that my U1 was no longer a faulty device, and it had never been the culprit after all.

But of course you don't happen to be sharing the same SSID for both frequencies are you?
 
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Renato said:
I give up.
definitively again another issue due to very poor quality of minix products.
I have tried everything, completely bypassed router and tried transfer on local lan through access point with same result.
Tried to remove completely authentication, moved minix on different lan, reinstalled wireless driver, tried different 5ghz channels.
before trash everything last try is to reinstall windows image available here.
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Dont give up...
Maybe you have something blocking.
Unistall or disable programs you dont need in your minix.
If you have your minix device working well and the router also you should have both rj45 and wifi working great.
You have also to configure both devices well and you should try at least for testing the minix near router.

One thing i now remember :
-What firmware OS do you have (image version) ?
-Have you updated your firmware in windows ? Or installed a new fresh image version?

You should try to discover what is causing the problem.
I think your minix is working good, the problem may be software/configuration

Dont forget to put your minix near your router to test wifi and if it working well then you can put further away.

Pay attention also in this:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6943024/amp
 
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Thanks for your support notrui2 but at this point I have really tried everything and the problem is still there.
I have just completed a fresh install using 1809 image available here in the forum, configured ethernet lan and wireless. Lan goes at 1gbit, wireless show 433mbit but download at 100 mbit from internet or local network.
All other devices work smoothly on 5ghz network from router and repeater.
I have tried another unit too that i bought for a friend of mine always used with ethernet cable too and has the same issue.
Really i have no more idea on what to do, I have tried even to change wifi parameters on the minix with the effect that if i force only to work to 20 hz the connection fall from 433 to 54 mbit.
As told the minix is placed at half meter from the repeater, the signal is strong and steady.
I have nothing vs minix but their product are really bugged.
Before z83-4 i bought 3 z64 and from the begin i experienced on all 3 units audio issue, partially solved, microsd issue NEVER solved.
After about one year all 3 units started to have ethernet problem. minix proposed me to replace the unit (paying half of the value) with the new z83-4.
These new units arrived already with microsd problem, NEVER solved, and for sure this issue that i am discovering only now due that until today I have used always ethernet cable.
regards
 
CybeRider said:
Hi Renato

Since 7.45 this morning that I am thinking about your message. If your network is capable to download 1 Gigabyte from the internet (wired or wireless in not the question) in about 10 seconds when your speed connection shows 433 mbit, then I should probably throw all my gizmos out the window and dedicated myself to fishing or something. If your Minix product is capable of that, even if you have to wire it, than calling it a "poor quality" product in a website full of product fans is walking on very thin ice.:sneaky::)

I really hope that your issue is not a mere units confusion somehow, or a situation caused by methodology. There is too much to consider when you decide to go through internet speed measuring and there is a lot to rely upon in third party. When I read these messages of disappointment I always remember the couple of days I spent thinking about my faulty U1, until I found out that all it would take to resolve my problem was to separate the SSID in the new internet router, in order for the 2.8 GHz band not to share the same SSID with the 5 GHz band. After that my U1 was no longer a faulty device, and it had never been the culprit after all.

But of course you don't happen I be sharing the same SSID for both frequencies are you?
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Hi,
as explained in my previous post my experience with minix has been absolutely negative. Said that i can't get your point. I pay a product for all its features and if one or more than one of them is not functioning properly I have to be happy the same due that other features works? Now i can't use ethernet cable no more and i need wifi what have I to say "oh very good, wifi is bugged but no problem, minix is fantastic to keep the paper on my desk I am really happy" otherwise fans will be angry?
Finally yes, i have 1gbit internet connection but the real problem is that even in local the transfer speed dropped from 70/80 megabytes/s with cable to 7/8 megabytes/s in wireless even if the connection speed of the minix show connected on 5ghz network at 433 mbit it is obviously not true and no, I haven't the same SSID for 2.4 end 5 Ghz band.
regards
 
Renato said:
... no, I haven't the same SSID for 2.4 end 5 Ghz band.
regards
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Ok, ok, I can see now that you had previous issues with Minix products, I was not seeing your point also, since your 3 messages to this forum couldn't point you having had any other issues. No one is going to be angry for you not being happy with a faulty product, best chance is very few, if someone, will care (whereas the friendly emojis. I was never good with emojis anyway).

About the actual case, same as @notrui2, I am also not convinced that you have a faulty product. 7 - 8 MBytes p/s seems consistent with a 100 Mbit network. With the SSID dedicated to the 5Ghz network and the router configured to 802.11ac, as it apparently is, since you report 433 Mbps which is the correct space stream per antenna (433 x 3 antennas =1.3 Gbit) you should be getting about 200 Mbit actual speed wifi, not Minix box fault:

https://www.lifewire.com/how-fast-is-a-wifi-network-816543

So, what puzzled me is the astonishing speed you mentioned above for the "other devices" but I can now realise the 80 or 90 MBytes speed is while wired. Do you have those devices wifi speed? Can they get close to 200 Mbps wifi in the same 5Ghz network and conditions? Are you quite positive that when the box is close and directly connected to the router in wifi, you don't get 200 Mbps instead of 100 Mbps, and then we could trace the problem of the wifi at 100Mbps to the repeater, since probably the download difference between 200 Mbps and 100 Mbps is not that big after all?

Regards
 
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Hi cyberider,
I had an old account that was deleted when the forum was closed for a while for that all my previous messages were lost.
However thanks for sharing with me your ideas.
To complete the testing scenario i can tell you that I have 3 devices that i am using to test speed transfer on local network from these devices
in wireless to my main PC cabled.
All device are connected to the same access point and in this access point i have disabled 2.4 ghz networ, on all of them i have uploaded the same file, a 2GB video.
1) minix is very near to access point and as told average speed is 7 megabytes/s
2) my smartphone is at 3 meters, an old note 4 samsung, with ftp protocol reach an average speed of 40 megabytes/s
3) my laptop is about at 5 meters and reach around 50 megabytes/s
Maybe as you are saying I am wrong with something but really i am not able to figure out what.
thanks
Renato
 
Renato said:
Hi cyberider,
I had an old account that was deleted when the forum was closed for a while for that all my previous messages were lost.
However thanks for sharing with me your ideas.
To complete the testing scenario i can tell you that I have 3 devices that i am using to test speed transfer on local network from these devices
in wireless to my main PC cabled.
All device are connected to the same access point and in this access point i have disabled 2.4 ghz networ, on all of them i have uploaded the same file, a 2GB video.
1) minix is very near to access point and as told average speed is 7 megabytes/s
2) my smartphone is at 3 meters, an old note 4 samsung, with ftp protocol reach an average speed of 40 megabytes/s
3) my laptop is about at 5 meters and reach around 50 megabytes/s
Maybe as you are saying I am wrong with something but really i am not able to figure out what.
thanks
Renato
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I can't say that you are wrong, but those speeds you are getting with the other devices brake the theory of the website I mentioned, in one hand the Minix speed seems to comply with the fact it is, for some strange reason, connecting to the network at 100 Mbps as you well said, although all configurations seem to be correct, and so we should certainly expect better. On the other hand the other devices go well over the expectations of the said 200 Mbps mentioned in that table in that website. It is obvious that the smartphone and the laptop are connecting above 400 Mbps and 500 Mbps, which are great marks for wifi.

And you certainly uploaded the file from the same source to all devices, so we can remove the upload speed out of the equation in what the transfer to the Minix is concerned... just thinking.

It is not only you who can't figure out what...
 
Renato said:
Hi cyberider,
I had an old account that was deleted when the forum was closed for a while for that all my previous messages were lost.
However thanks for sharing with me your ideas.
To complete the testing scenario i can tell you that I have 3 devices that i am using to test speed transfer on local network from these devices
in wireless to my main PC cabled.
All device are connected to the same access point and in this access point i have disabled 2.4 ghz networ, on all of them i have uploaded the same file, a 2GB video.
1) minix is very near to access point and as told average speed is 7 megabytes/s
2) my smartphone is at 3 meters, an old note 4 samsung, with ftp protocol reach an average speed of 40 megabytes/s
3) my laptop is about at 5 meters and reach around 50 megabytes/s
Maybe as you are saying I am wrong with something but really i am not able to figure out what.
thanks
Renato
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Hi Renato.
Sometimes is very tricky and very difficult to discover a problem or bad configuration that we have in a device.
My last configuration problem was in kodi NAS server:
https://theminixforum.com/index.php?threads/any-knowledgeable-kodi-mysql-users-please.1274/

It took a time to discover but i did it.
Maybe you have a setup problem and not a faulty discover as also @CybeRider said.
 
Renato said:
Hi cyberider,
I had an old account that was deleted when the forum was closed for a while for that all my previous messages were lost.
However thanks for sharing with me your ideas.
To complete the testing scenario i can tell you that I have 3 devices that i am using to test speed transfer on local network from these devices
in wireless to my main PC cabled.
All device are connected to the same access point and in this access point i have disabled 2.4 ghz networ, on all of them i have uploaded the same file, a 2GB video.
1) minix is very near to access point and as told average speed is 7 megabytes/s
2) my smartphone is at 3 meters, an old note 4 samsung, with ftp protocol reach an average speed of 40 megabytes/s
3) my laptop is about at 5 meters and reach around 50 megabytes/s
Maybe as you are saying I am wrong with something but really i am not able to figure out what.
thanks
Renato
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I just noticed that so far we have always been talking about LAN speed, and I do recognise this is what matters here. But, do you happen to get the same differences while, instead of actually moving a file, you run a conventional wifi speed test between the different devices and an ISP? I would certainly try that.

Although copying a file, as you are doing, should give you the best idea, it can be affected by an antivirus program -@notrui2 had already mentioned they should be turned off for testing- but there is so much going on inside Windows nowadays, from file indexing to updates checking, that task manager never stops.

I am aware that a laptop and a smartphone are used for your testing, and that probably your laptop is also Windows, and so the results should be similar between the two, but I would definitely try a conventional speed test to the ISP with the wifi of the three devices.
 
First we must have a excelent local speed/configuration network.

Local setup is very important.
After that test local speed, in your case test copying a file from a computer to another PC for example (wifi).


Internet speed/configuration comes later.
 
Hi,
regarding antenna I have attached it as soon as turned on wifi.
I haven't antivirus installed on my PCs, only windows defender.
just completed provider speed test that give more or less same results
smartphone - 300mbit
laptop - 450 mbit
minix - 60 mbit
I guess that this is something related to wifi driver or wifi adapter parameter but don't worry for now
i am using it with limited wifi band, if a solution should ever come out well otherwise i'll keep it as is.
Only for my curiosity, someone has the same minix model? if yes have you tested maximum speed reachable with wifi?
thanks
 
I dont have your model.
One thing you can try is search for other wifi driver even a old one.
 
Renato said:
Hi,
regarding antenna I have attached it as soon as turned on wifi.
I haven't antivirus installed on my PCs, only windows defender.
just completed provider speed test that give more or less same results
smartphone - 300mbit
laptop - 450 mbit
minix - 60 mbit
I guess that this is something related to wifi driver or wifi adapter parameter but don't worry for now
i am using it with limited wifi band, if a solution should ever come out well otherwise i'll keep it as is.
Only for my curiosity, someone has the same minix model? if yes have you tested maximum speed reachable with wifi?
thanks
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I was fearing that result... I know nothing about the model itself or Windows 10 tweaks to solve that. I doubted it would be the antenna because I tested without the antenna and with a box away from the router about 15 meters it connects (going 1 to 2 dots instead of 2 to 3) with not much difference in the down speed (bluetooth would perform worse without it though), so even without the external bit the antenna in my Android models works so it should be there as well, especially that close to the router or repeater as you mentioned.

It is proven the issue is not in your LAN...
 
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