New Minix products presented at IFA Berlin 2019

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markrutte10 said:
Hello,
I am looking for the Minix Neo G41V-4 or the Minix Neo J50C-4 to order in Holland, but I can't order both Minix here
Only in Germany and China
Can I trust when I order the Minix in China, or someone has a better adress for the Minix
Thanks in advance
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Most of our European resellers offer shipping across Europe.
 
Reza-D said:
We've been waiting a long time. We'd like to see U22 sooner
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I really hope I am not right, but this is how it looked for the x39 for quite some time. And then it got "soft cancelled" a year later. (turned into an "industrial player", whatever that is). In the meantime people kept waiting, potential release dates were suggested, hinted at in the forums, and then about a year after the announcement it was gone. That in itself is not a problem. Minix is not a huge global enterprise, they seem more like a small but ambitious company that has delivered some very successful products. I am sure they worked hard on the x39, too. As smaller companies can suffer, it seems that Minix sometimes has bigger ambitions than capabilities when it comes to delivering. What they do deliver is fine, thank god, but they would deliver even more, if they could, apparently. For some reason they seem to have a problem with high end android devices. I have no idea what the issue is or how to solve it, but this is the impression I get from the outside, based on the history of the x39 and the u22 so far.

What bothers me is the syncopates on this forum that invent "retroactive transparency", like thanking Minix for not releasing the x39 any time in the announced time frame and constructing forum rules that you may not ask about release dates once it becomes apparent that there is a deley. If Minix could have released the x39 in any working shape, I am sure they would have done so, but they did not, not what was announced and not when it was announced. If we must find something that was nice of them, despite the fiasco, is that they did not try to sell something that they themselves knew did not work. A pretty low bar to clear, but one cleared none the less.

However, that has nothing to do with transparency. Transparency would have meant that they announce that the x39 is not going to be released in the expected time frame and no known release time frame can be announced at the time. Silently dropping something like it never existed is not transparency, or re-labelling it to a made up term a year late is not either.

Sure, Minix does not owe us anything, they did announce a product on a trade fair, somebody uploaded it to youtube and that is it. That's not a contract, nothing to take somebody to court for. Still, that does not mean that people are not goint to get excited for the announced products from those videos, like I did for the x39 a year ago. Minix might want to be more careful with their announcements in the future. Disappointing potential customers is not a successful business model, and I am sure they know that too.

I still like the company, and I hope they sort out the u22 before long. If they want to be transparent, they could perhaps also provide an official update.

If they do, I might even replace my shitty box from a competitor that arrived with a non-working ethernet, whose launcher I hate, but has the same SoC like the u22 and the additional benefit of being available.
 
mgabrielm said:
What bothers me is the syncopates on this forum that invent "retroactive transparency", like thanking Minix for not releasing the x39 any time in the announced time frame(...)

If they do, I might even replace my shitty box from a competitor that arrived with a non-working ethernet, whose launcher I hate, but has the same SoC like the u22 and the additional benefit of being available.
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So it bothers you that people are actually happy that they are not being cheated with an unfinished product? You go and buy a "shitty box from a competitor" which is faulty, but you prefer faulty over delayed? Whatever works you you, but I completely don't understand that view.
 
Hopefully MINIX will give us an update at some point.

In the meantime I think some members need to relax a bit with posts about the U22.

We all are hoping and looking forward to the release of it.

Let's try and remember that we are just talking about a media device!

Based on other real life issue's currently going on in the world!
Is the release of the the U22 that important?
 
ENDRJUPL said:
So it bothers you that people are actually happy that they are not being cheated with an unfinished product? You go and buy a "shitty box from a competitor" which is faulty, but you prefer faulty over delayed? Whatever works you you, but I completely don't understand that view.
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I think what bother most people isn't the delay itself, but the fact that no release date has been stated, so many of them are stuck in a limbo (someone perhaps needs to upgrade his current device but doesn't know if waiting for the U22 or buy something else).

I think that any answers different from "who knows", "don't ask", etcc.. would be more appropriate from Minix.
Why just don't comunicate a reliable release date (June 2020?? Sept. 2021? May 2024??) instead of keep pushing forward that date? It was November.. then January.. now February.. This is quite frustrating.
 
ENDRJUPL said:
So it bothers you that people are actually happy that they are not being cheated with an unfinished product? You go and buy a "shitty box from a competitor" which is faulty, but you prefer faulty over delayed? Whatever works you you, but I completely don't understand that view.
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A faulty, but working product beats a nonexisting one any day of the week. I had a workaround to solve the ethernet problem. I am not happy, but there is something functioning there. Which, again, is better than nothing. The experience at the time with the u9h was night and day. I switched it on and it worked. I would have preferred to buy Minix then, and I would prefer to buy Minix now.

You invented a scenario, in which Minix _could have_ released a half baked x39, and then went on to celebrate them for not doing so. Sure, you can celebrate any vendor that did not **ck you over any time you bought something.

But, that does not make the issue of transparency go away. There was no clear communication then, and there does not seem to be any now.
I think Minix would be best served by an apology and some explanation as well as some update as to when they see the u22 becoming available.
 
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mgabrielm said:
A faulty, but working product beats a nonexisting one any day of the week. I had a workaround to solve the ethernet problem. I am not happy, but there is something functioning there. Which, again, is better than nothing. The experience at the time with the u9h was night and day. I switched it on and it worked. I would have preferred to buy Minix then, and I would prefer to buy Minix now.

You invented a scenario, in which Minix _could have_ released a half baked x39, and then went on to celebrate them for not doing so. Sure, you can celebrate any vendor that did not **ck you over any time you bought something.

But, that does not make the issue of transparency go away. There was no clear communication then, and there does not seem to be any now.
I think Minix would be best served by an apology and some explanation as well as some update as to when they see the u22 becoming available.
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I'm in possession of of an X39. Trust me, Minix made the right call. The device wasn't ready for the general public. Media playback is choppy and I've encountered tons of bugs.

I also think you're in the minority with your opinion regarding the release of an unfinished product. I think Minix would lose more customers if their products didn't function as intended at launch. People pay premium prices for quality products. Otherwise, what would differentiate Minix from its competition?
 
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